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		<title>By: TJF588</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/06/a-thousand-words-about-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>TJF588</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, maybe shoulda denoted the spoiler-avoidance (and checked my spelling; &quot;evetually&quot; and &quot;put&quot; instead of &quot;much&quot;).  BTW, I&#039;ve read your other responses (thnx, Gmail), and do look forward to reading more of this site whenever I glance it on the RSS feeder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, maybe shoulda denoted the spoiler-avoidance (and checked my spelling; &#8220;evetually&#8221; and &#8220;put&#8221; instead of &#8220;much&#8221;).  BTW, I&#8217;ve read your other responses (thnx, Gmail), and do look forward to reading more of this site whenever I glance it on the RSS feeder.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiriska</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/06/a-thousand-words-about-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiriska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I almost didn&#039;t read through this comment because you started to mention 358/2 Days and Xion, which I definitely, definitely do not want to read or know about until I&#039;ve got the game in my hands and finished playing it. So yeah, I&#039;m with you and would definitely be miffed if I&#039;d come across whatever you did. Even small details can potentially be huge spoilers if they start a chain of deductive reasoning. There was a time when I wanted to know everything about the game, but now I&#039;ve taken to just waiting for them and avoiding all news and speculation completely, especially if a game releases earlier in Japan. It&#039;s just not worth the grief and my spoiler paranoia is bad enough as it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I almost didn&#8217;t read through this comment because you started to mention 358/2 Days and Xion, which I definitely, definitely do not want to read or know about until I&#8217;ve got the game in my hands and finished playing it. So yeah, I&#8217;m with you and would definitely be miffed if I&#8217;d come across whatever you did. Even small details can potentially be huge spoilers if they start a chain of deductive reasoning. There was a time when I wanted to know everything about the game, but now I&#8217;ve taken to just waiting for them and avoiding all news and speculation completely, especially if a game releases earlier in Japan. It&#8217;s just not worth the grief and my spoiler paranoia is bad enough as it is.</p>
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		<title>By: TJF588</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/06/a-thousand-words-about-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-892</link>
		<dc:creator>TJF588</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the upcoming KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days, someone posted in a thread on a different game&#039;s board, &quot;For [sort of characters/conditions being discussed], look no further than KH&#039;s Xion.&quot;  There was also a YouTube link, which I copy+pasted, maybe half-instinctively, and then closed out of once I saw the setting.

A major point of Days is WTF is up with Xion, the XIVth member of Organization XIII.  To&#039;ve given that comment (s)he did, that very narrowed down the range of whose Nobody she is, and even the nature of her non-existence (there are a couple other Nobody characters with wonky conditions).

I (evetually) played it off as no big thing, but I&#039;m still miffed about it.  So many of SQEX&#039;s games I know things about, but I hadn&#039;t for this one aside from speculations.  Then, before I even had a chance to play it (it comes out in the States about a month from now), here&#039;s something about a new character who&#039;s pretty put the plot point (or at least the one we don&#039;t know about, since aspects of Days are known/figured from KHII).

I&#039;m regularly at Danbooru, and I&#039;ve come to use the blacklist not for personal preferences, but for things I haven&#039;t played yet.  Especially Persona 4, if not 3, from things such as a character&#039;s physical condition to just the inclusion of a lewdly-shaped Persona and another loli S.Link character (or I assume she is; these &quot;unusual&quot; bond-partners bemuse me, especially with the Internet&#039;s influences).  Heck, even the identity of Gabranth in FFXII has been blown for me by fanart, though I think it was something else that first spoiled me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the upcoming KINGDOM HEARTS 358/2 Days, someone posted in a thread on a different game&#8217;s board, &#8220;For [sort of characters/conditions being discussed], look no further than KH&#8217;s Xion.&#8221;  There was also a YouTube link, which I copy+pasted, maybe half-instinctively, and then closed out of once I saw the setting.</p>
<p>A major point of Days is WTF is up with Xion, the XIVth member of Organization XIII.  To&#8217;ve given that comment (s)he did, that very narrowed down the range of whose Nobody she is, and even the nature of her non-existence (there are a couple other Nobody characters with wonky conditions).</p>
<p>I (evetually) played it off as no big thing, but I&#8217;m still miffed about it.  So many of SQEX&#8217;s games I know things about, but I hadn&#8217;t for this one aside from speculations.  Then, before I even had a chance to play it (it comes out in the States about a month from now), here&#8217;s something about a new character who&#8217;s pretty put the plot point (or at least the one we don&#8217;t know about, since aspects of Days are known/figured from KHII).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m regularly at Danbooru, and I&#8217;ve come to use the blacklist not for personal preferences, but for things I haven&#8217;t played yet.  Especially Persona 4, if not 3, from things such as a character&#8217;s physical condition to just the inclusion of a lewdly-shaped Persona and another loli S.Link character (or I assume she is; these &#8220;unusual&#8221; bond-partners bemuse me, especially with the Internet&#8217;s influences).  Heck, even the identity of Gabranth in FFXII has been blown for me by fanart, though I think it was something else that first spoiled me.</p>
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		<title>By: Netto</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/06/a-thousand-words-about-spoilers/comment-page-1/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>Netto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I don&#039;t mind much about spoilers, although it&#039;s true that they take out the fun out of stuff.

However, I usually prioritize the journey of going through the story as a more important factor as compared to what happens at the end of the story.

But then again, human curiosity will always have one or two looking for spoilers just because they want to know (or can&#039;t wait for) the story to continue on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I don&#8217;t mind much about spoilers, although it&#8217;s true that they take out the fun out of stuff.</p>
<p>However, I usually prioritize the journey of going through the story as a more important factor as compared to what happens at the end of the story.</p>
<p>But then again, human curiosity will always have one or two looking for spoilers just because they want to know (or can&#8217;t wait for) the story to continue on.</p>
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		<title>By: RP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kadian, Michael

No prob about the Eva stuff. I will say one good thing about spoilers is luckily they don&#039;t mean much (at least to me) until you&#039;ve become immersed in the show. For example, I could probably say X dies in show Y, and if you hadn&#039;t heard of it, or didn&#039;t know anything about it, it&#039;s easy to forget about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kadian, Michael</p>
<p>No prob about the Eva stuff. I will say one good thing about spoilers is luckily they don&#8217;t mean much (at least to me) until you&#8217;ve become immersed in the show. For example, I could probably say X dies in show Y, and if you hadn&#8217;t heard of it, or didn&#8217;t know anything about it, it&#8217;s easy to forget about.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiriska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiriska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely agree about the HP spoilers, though a lot of what was discussed in the comments thus far is the idea that for culturally significant/widespread series, how reasonable is it for someone to expect to remain unspoiled? With so many inconsiderate people spouting things without warning, would it be better to go ahead with experiencing something just to avoid further spoilers?

Yeah, Mark kind of just assumes that no one cares about whatever he&#039;s talking about (as is usually the case?), so it&#039;s unfortunate when someone does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely agree about the HP spoilers, though a lot of what was discussed in the comments thus far is the idea that for culturally significant/widespread series, how reasonable is it for someone to expect to remain unspoiled? With so many inconsiderate people spouting things without warning, would it be better to go ahead with experiencing something just to avoid further spoilers?</p>
<p>Yeah, Mark kind of just assumes that no one cares about whatever he&#8217;s talking about (as is usually the case?), so it&#8217;s unfortunate when someone does.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I only read half of this because I didn&#039;t want Harry Potter or Death Note spoiled, so excuse any reiteration on my part.

The most frustrating thing about Harry Potter is that spoilers are inescapable. The  obsessed fans, back in the time of Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, were nothing short of rabid. That of course beings on what you mentioned, people who spoil just to incite emotion. I haven&#039;t read any of the Harry Potter books for a variety of reasons, but I&#039;d like to someday. Preferably when the zeitgeist has died and it&#039;s just another notable series-- probably a year or two after the last movie. Despite not ever being in Potter communities, or even communicating with Potter die-hards I&#039;ve managed to pickup a ton about the series. 

I think spoilers warnings generally already have the appropriate retention time. Simply because those that care to watch/read/experience something will do it within reasonable time. And if I ever stumble across spoilers for something, I&#039;m usually able to sense their coming before I read to far. 

Among the many reasons why I dislike Mark Kneece is because he&#039;s a huge spoiler pants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I only read half of this because I didn&#8217;t want Harry Potter or Death Note spoiled, so excuse any reiteration on my part.</p>
<p>The most frustrating thing about Harry Potter is that spoilers are inescapable. The  obsessed fans, back in the time of Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, were nothing short of rabid. That of course beings on what you mentioned, people who spoil just to incite emotion. I haven&#8217;t read any of the Harry Potter books for a variety of reasons, but I&#8217;d like to someday. Preferably when the zeitgeist has died and it&#8217;s just another notable series&#8211; probably a year or two after the last movie. Despite not ever being in Potter communities, or even communicating with Potter die-hards I&#8217;ve managed to pickup a ton about the series. </p>
<p>I think spoilers warnings generally already have the appropriate retention time. Simply because those that care to watch/read/experience something will do it within reasonable time. And if I ever stumble across spoilers for something, I&#8217;m usually able to sense their coming before I read to far. </p>
<p>Among the many reasons why I dislike Mark Kneece is because he&#8217;s a huge spoiler pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael &#124; Low on Hit Points</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael &#124; Low on Hit Points</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RP

What kadian1364 said about Eva isn&#039;t really true.  It&#039;s a bit more &quot;complex&quot; than that.  And it&#039;s definitely (well, probably) not what you&#039;re thinking.

@ kadian1364

Have to completely disagree with time being a factor at all.  An anime having aired 10 years ago means absolutely nothing to someone new to anime.  All of those series are completely foreign to them.  Even the &quot;hardcore audience&quot; has not seen or heard of a lot of what you imagine they have.

So, spoilers are bad, period.  No exceptions.  Hide them or provide a warning in every case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RP</p>
<p>What kadian1364 said about Eva isn&#8217;t really true.  It&#8217;s a bit more &#8220;complex&#8221; than that.  And it&#8217;s definitely (well, probably) not what you&#8217;re thinking.</p>
<p>@ kadian1364</p>
<p>Have to completely disagree with time being a factor at all.  An anime having aired 10 years ago means absolutely nothing to someone new to anime.  All of those series are completely foreign to them.  Even the &#8220;hardcore audience&#8221; has not seen or heard of a lot of what you imagine they have.</p>
<p>So, spoilers are bad, period.  No exceptions.  Hide them or provide a warning in every case.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiriska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiriska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, edited in the spoiler tags for you because apparently I can do that. :&gt;

I guess it&#039;s just a matter of striking a balance between courtesy on the part of those in the know and cautiousness on the part of those who aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, edited in the spoiler tags for you because apparently I can do that. :></p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s just a matter of striking a balance between courtesy on the part of those in the know and cautiousness on the part of those who aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: kadian1364</title>
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		<dc:creator>kadian1364</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I feel kinda bad now. There were definitely some things I tried to spoiler tag, just in case. That was pretty much the worst case scenario.

My point is that there will always be people literally born yesterday, and it wouldn&#039;t be practical to step around spoilers all the time just for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I feel kinda bad now. There were definitely some things I tried to spoiler tag, just in case. That was pretty much the worst case scenario.</p>
<p>My point is that there will always be people literally born yesterday, and it wouldn&#8217;t be practical to step around spoilers all the time just for them.</p>
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