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	<title>Comments on: AX09 Commentary on OEL Manga</title>
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	<description>My opinions, let me tell them to you.</description>
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		<title>By: Deb Aoki</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Aoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hiya! glad you found my AX &#039;09 tweets useful and interesting. here&#039;s the completed report on the OEL manga panel, including photos and more complete, in context quotes from the panelists:

http://manga.about.com/b/2009/07/13/anime-expo-2009-7-reasons-why-oel-manga-falters-in-the-u-s.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hiya! glad you found my AX &#8216;09 tweets useful and interesting. here&#8217;s the completed report on the OEL manga panel, including photos and more complete, in context quotes from the panelists:</p>
<p><a href="http://manga.about.com/b/2009/07/13/anime-expo-2009-7-reasons-why-oel-manga-falters-in-the-u-s.htm" rel="nofollow">http://manga.about.com/b/2009/07/13/anime-expo-2009-7-reasons-why-oel-manga-falters-in-the-u-s.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Manga Xanadu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Manga For 7/4-7/10/09</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Manga Xanadu &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Week in Manga For 7/4-7/10/09</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you aren&#8217;t following her, you should, especially with SDCC coming up!  Fortunately, Opinion Prone collected them for her one commentary.  While I agree that the US system isn&#8217;t set up to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If you aren&#8217;t following her, you should, especially with SDCC coming up!  Fortunately, Opinion Prone collected them for her one commentary.  While I agree that the US system isn&#8217;t set up to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AX updates and other weekend news &#124; Anime Blog Online</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>AX updates and other weekend news &#124; Anime Blog Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] biggest anime and manga show in the country. Opinion Prone summarizes Deb Aoki&#8217;s tweets on the global manga panel and adds some opinions, and Evan Miller has a fuller report for ANN. Yaoi Press announced that they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] biggest anime and manga show in the country. Opinion Prone summarizes Deb Aoki&#8217;s tweets on the global manga panel and adds some opinions, and Evan Miller has a fuller report for ANN. Yaoi Press announced that they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AX updates and other weekend news</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; AX updates and other weekend news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] biggest anime and manga show in the country. Opinion Prone summarizes Deb Aoki&#8217;s tweets on the global manga panel and adds some opinions, and Evan Miller has a fuller report for ANN. Yaoi Press announced that they [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] biggest anime and manga show in the country. Opinion Prone summarizes Deb Aoki&#8217;s tweets on the global manga panel and adds some opinions, and Evan Miller has a fuller report for ANN. Yaoi Press announced that they [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re able to join someday; we&#039;re a good bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re able to join someday; we&#8217;re a good bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiriska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiriska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually already know of Void and contemplated participating a few months back. It does seem to be a great place for young comic artists to practice and develop their skills; the forums in particular seem like a great place for feedback and constructive criticism. I didn&#039;t end up going through with my application because of time and stress constraints, but it&#039;s definitely something I may consider again in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually already know of Void and contemplated participating a few months back. It does seem to be a great place for young comic artists to practice and develop their skills; the forums in particular seem like a great place for feedback and constructive criticism. I didn&#8217;t end up going through with my application because of time and stress constraints, but it&#8217;s definitely something I may consider again in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin B</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was linked to this article from Maximo Lorenzo, a one-time participant in the Rising Stars competition.  I&#039;d like to briefly talk about my own website, a competitive community for comic artists, and how training young artists is exactly what we try to do there.

The site was originally created to give a group of friends an environment to challenge one another using comics.  It has since grown into a small-scale training ground for new comic artists to practice their craft while receiving feedback from a community of artists on how to better their art.

Some &#039;graduates&#039; of the site include Maximo, James &quot;Wonton Soup&quot; Stokoe, Sheldon &quot;Supertron&quot; Vella, Kenneth &quot;Madame Mirage&quot; Rocafort, and many more that have gone on to create and publish comics.

Unfortunately, for every success there are scores of drop-outs.  One section of the site is dedicated to the creation of characters.  Roughly half of all new members leave at this stage because they can&#039;t handle constructive criticism.  Every day I witness first-hand many of the points you make in this article about decent artists without storytelling ability, mediocre art, fans turned artists, disenfranchisement once reality sets in, and the lack of a dedicated comic art training program.

I don&#039;t know of any other community like ours that try to help budding artists, but we are out there, trying to help in our own way.

Click my name for more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was linked to this article from Maximo Lorenzo, a one-time participant in the Rising Stars competition.  I&#8217;d like to briefly talk about my own website, a competitive community for comic artists, and how training young artists is exactly what we try to do there.</p>
<p>The site was originally created to give a group of friends an environment to challenge one another using comics.  It has since grown into a small-scale training ground for new comic artists to practice their craft while receiving feedback from a community of artists on how to better their art.</p>
<p>Some &#8216;graduates&#8217; of the site include Maximo, James &#8220;Wonton Soup&#8221; Stokoe, Sheldon &#8220;Supertron&#8221; Vella, Kenneth &#8220;Madame Mirage&#8221; Rocafort, and many more that have gone on to create and publish comics.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, for every success there are scores of drop-outs.  One section of the site is dedicated to the creation of characters.  Roughly half of all new members leave at this stage because they can&#8217;t handle constructive criticism.  Every day I witness first-hand many of the points you make in this article about decent artists without storytelling ability, mediocre art, fans turned artists, disenfranchisement once reality sets in, and the lack of a dedicated comic art training program.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know of any other community like ours that try to help budding artists, but we are out there, trying to help in our own way.</p>
<p>Click my name for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiriska</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiriska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I have absolutely no idea why no one has snatched it up yet. Asking about the traditional Japanese weekly model was something I had intended to ask Eric Searleman when I did &lt;a href=&quot;http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/06/interview-with-eric-searleman/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my interview&lt;/a&gt;, but as he already mentioned that Viz intends to consider every option, I figured he would answer the same way. The problem with a weekly right now is likely the amount of work they would need to put forth from the very beginning to gather enough artists to fill a sizeable magazine and enough editors to work with them. And if artists/projects are to be dropped as often as Bakuman suggests, then it&#039;s going to be off to a very unstable start since you won&#039;t have anything long-running and popular. I don&#039;t like the idea of mixing OEL with licensed work either since it&#039;s an awkward content mixture.

As far as partnerships go, I also agree that more artists need to seek out writers and vice versa, but that&#039;s also difficult for people starting out since they don&#039;t have nearly as many connections. For already established writers, I find it hard to see them wanting to break into the comics industry just because of how haphazard it is on so many fronts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I have absolutely no idea why no one has snatched it up yet. Asking about the traditional Japanese weekly model was something I had intended to ask Eric Searleman when I did <a href="http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/06/interview-with-eric-searleman/" rel="nofollow">my interview</a>, but as he already mentioned that Viz intends to consider every option, I figured he would answer the same way. The problem with a weekly right now is likely the amount of work they would need to put forth from the very beginning to gather enough artists to fill a sizeable magazine and enough editors to work with them. And if artists/projects are to be dropped as often as Bakuman suggests, then it&#8217;s going to be off to a very unstable start since you won&#8217;t have anything long-running and popular. I don&#8217;t like the idea of mixing OEL with licensed work either since it&#8217;s an awkward content mixture.</p>
<p>As far as partnerships go, I also agree that more artists need to seek out writers and vice versa, but that&#8217;s also difficult for people starting out since they don&#8217;t have nearly as many connections. For already established writers, I find it hard to see them wanting to break into the comics industry just because of how haphazard it is on so many fronts.</p>
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		<title>By: ghostlightning</title>
		<link>http://op.deadend-detour.com/2009/07/ax09-commentary-on-oel-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-466</link>
		<dc:creator>ghostlightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone needs to license &lt;i&gt;Bakuman&lt;/i&gt; fast. Seriously. As a business model, a serial magazine smorgasbord like Jump works because it weeds out the weak and gives immediate feedback what titles will sell as books - that is, provided that US readers would want to own Tankoubon of stuff they already have serially.

Older writers don&#039;t normally want to write manga of course, but ideally they&#039;d partner with a good illustrator and there&#039;s now possibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone needs to license <i>Bakuman</i> fast. Seriously. As a business model, a serial magazine smorgasbord like Jump works because it weeds out the weak and gives immediate feedback what titles will sell as books &#8211; that is, provided that US readers would want to own Tankoubon of stuff they already have serially.</p>
<p>Older writers don&#8217;t normally want to write manga of course, but ideally they&#8217;d partner with a good illustrator and there&#8217;s now possibility.</p>
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